7 string guitars
Thu, 25/09/2008 - 16:33
who uses one then?
i tried but I thought they were a bit useless and pointless. i cant see what they add to a bands sound and unles im told that so and so uses one I wouldnt be able to tell.
ive been told that it adds extra veaviness, but I used 10-48 gauge to record the nagual cd and i think its as heavy as it can get without turning the sound to mush
Thu, 25/09/2008 - 16:44
#1
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Trey Azagthoth.
And you cant say anything negative about his guitar skills.
Thu, 25/09/2008 - 17:08
#2
Trey Azagthoth.
And you cant say anything negative about his guitar skills.
wanna bet?
Thu, 25/09/2008 - 18:21
#3
Im not even going to get into this one.....
Thu, 25/09/2008 - 23:29
#4
Unnecessary unless you play Blackened Death Metal
Fri, 26/09/2008 - 00:04
#5
A seven string guitar through a ring modulator sounds pretty neat.
Fri, 26/09/2008 - 01:40
#6
John Petrucci, Rusty Cooley, Battle Lore uses 7 strings, Jeff Loomis and Steve Vai.
But why stop at 7 and just go with 8? Or maybe eve go with a Warr Guitar...
http://www.warrguitars.com/
Fri, 26/09/2008 - 04:50
#7
Jeff Loomis
Yes, and he rules on it.
To answer the OP's question, in Loomis' case, it allows him to play heavier, down-tuned riffs while still being able to solo with higher notes. 
Fri, 26/09/2008 - 09:42
#8
But why stop at 7 and just go with 8? Or maybe eve go with a Warr Guitar...
http://www.warrguitars.com/
How in the hell are you supposed to play that? You'd need massive hands and that's only if you have the strength to hold that grand old oak tree up!!!
I must admit that, for me at least, less is more. I can see how it would benefit a guy like Jeff Loomis but I'm not him. 
Sun, 05/10/2008 - 03:43
#9
who uses one then?
i tried but I thought they were a bit useless and pointless. i cant see what they add to a bands sound and unles im told that so and so uses one I wouldnt be able to tell.
ive been told that it adds extra veaviness, but I used 10-48 gauge to record the nagual cd and i think its as heavy as it can get without turning the sound to mush
They are a complete waste of time. Tuning down is all very well – just use six strings – but even down at C you need (in my opinion) 11s. If you want to go heavy, downtuning is part of the way, but, like anything else, is full of pitfalls.
Personally? A Gibson solidbody with Seymour Duncans ( JB1 Bridge/ Jazz Neck) would be my immediate grab for low-end growl. Just, please, don't go head and shoulders for active EMGs. They're okay. But the fact that everyone uses them should be enough to put you off. Viva the dynamics, etc.....
And then there's choice of amp. I could go on ad nauseum.
Sun, 05/10/2008 - 08:59
#10
i disagree with you saying that tuning below C needs heavier strings. I play in B drop A most of the time and use 10-52 or even 10-48. its not any good for thrash or black, but for rock and doom its perfect.
Sun, 05/10/2008 - 12:15
#11
True. It's pretty much entirely personal preference and if you're on the doom/drone thing if the strings flap a bit then it's no biggie. I like some resistance though. Do you not have tuning issues?
Sun, 05/10/2008 - 20:37
#12
no. i spend about 5 minutes prestretching each string and use a locking nut with the floating trem locked down.
Wed, 08/10/2008 - 14:32
#13
7 strings are quite useful if you wanna shred but if your a lot more rhythm based then 6 is sufficient a 7 string will give you some cool sweep picking sound though if you used something like the D to slide to a higher position then sweep that you'll get really nice low to high sweep
Thu, 09/10/2008 - 18:19
#14
Then there's Meshuggah and their 8-strings.
Thu, 09/10/2008 - 19:46
#15
Then there's Meshuggah and their 8-strings.
yeah, but if you hadnt been told you would never have known. they make little or no difference to the sound
Thu, 09/10/2008 - 19:52
#16
I wouldn't have known, but that's because I'm a guitar noob, not because there's no difference in the sound. You hear it well in songs like Stengah or Straws Pulled At Random.
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 04:38
#17
Then there's Meshuggah and their 8-strings.
yeah, but if you hadnt been told you would never have known. they make little or no difference to the sound
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 08:50
#18
Who needs 8-strings on a guitar seriously?
Meshuggah? lol
but really it seems to be getting silly as these bands arent using them to full potential the only thing they get is a slightly better tone which is hardly noticable.
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 10:52
#19
Who needs 8-strings on a guitar seriously?
Meshuggah? lol
but really it seems to be getting silly as these bands arent using them to full potential the only thing they get is a slightly better tone which is hardly noticable.
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 12:01
#20
you only really get much difference when you get to 12 string but thats because its a whole different thing then i think its more to sound impressive when they say we use 8 strings even 7 strings are a little show off and only people in the sort of Vai category would use all 7 fully
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 19:12
#21
Who needs 8-strings on a guitar seriously?
Meshuggah? lol
but really it seems to be getting silly as these bands arent using them to full potential the only thing they get is a slightly better tone which is hardly noticable.
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 21:50
#22
you only really get much difference when you get to 12 string but thats because its a whole different thing then i think its more to sound impressive when they say we use 8 strings even 7 strings are a little show off and only people in the sort of Vai category would use all 7 fully
Matt Pike has a 9 string. And it does indeed effect the sound.
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 21:53
#23
you only really get much difference when you get to 12 string but thats because its a whole different thing then i think its more to sound impressive when they say we use 8 strings even 7 strings are a little show off and only people in the sort of Vai category would use all 7 fully
Matt Pike has a 9 string. And it does indeed effect the sound.
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 22:05
#24
you only really get much difference when you get to 12 string but thats because its a whole different thing then i think its more to sound impressive when they say we use 8 strings even 7 strings are a little show off and only people in the sort of Vai category would use all 7 fully
Matt Pike has a 9 string. And it does indeed effect the sound.
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 22:10
#25
You think I haven't? Hahahahahahahaha!
You seem like a pussy, pussys don't like dicks . . .
Sat, 11/10/2008 - 00:20
#26
You think I haven't? Hahahahahahahaha!
You seem like a pussy, pussys don't like dicks . . .
Sat, 11/10/2008 - 06:07
#27
Surely you can simply throw the right guage strings on, have the appropriate pick-ups, and get the same results with a six-string rather than seven- or eight-strings. I can only see the convience of not having to have many guitars in different tunings to be honest. I agree with Infant. If you didn't know they had 8-string guitars you wouldn't be able to tell.
Sat, 11/10/2008 - 11:39
#28
You think I haven't? Hahahahahahahaha!
You seem like a pussy, pussys don't like dicks . . .
Sun, 04/10/2009 - 16:17
#29
I went through this dilemma a while back. 6-string with fat strings or 7-string? What clinches it IMO is the pickups. Strictly speaking a 6-string pickup is set up perfectly for standard E tuning, so if you change the string gauges to achieve B tuning the pickup is operating out of its comfort zone when you shred on the top string. This is not to say you can't get a good sound, but you might well get an inconsistent sound. For example, the DiMarzio X2N7 has a different setup to the DiMarzio X2N because peoples' experiences with an X2N(6) with fatter strings meant clarity was lost.
Sun, 04/10/2009 - 16:45
#30
clarity will be lost at the tuning i use, regardless of the pups I use. I have tried several different set ups and none of them have sharpened the sound. but, as I play doom/drone thats fine.
7 strings are gimmicky. i know they became popular for a while during the hateful nu-metal period, but that was because they looked a bit different, perfect when image was everything, and the people playing them played the dumbest and simplest one fret 'riffs' and having a B on top meant they werent confused by technical issues, like tuning down.
i do want a 6 string with a fretboard as wide a 7 though. ive tried everywhere ad cant find one. its not cost efficient to modify my axe though, i would need new hardware and pups. plus i play a limited Ibanez rg550ex. its a beautiful guitar and theres no way im chopping it up.