new Katatonia album..........

in
finally on the way! Straight from horse's mouth:
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Sweden's KATATONIA has entered the studio to begin recording its eighth album for a late October release via Peaceville Records. 13 tracks are being laid down for the effort (out of which 11-12 songs will make it onto the final CD), which is being described by the band as "our most varied, diverse and possibly strongest shit all together on one and the same album."
Source: Blabbermouth. I hope it's better than their last album.

I don't think that cover is

I don't think that cover is that great. Not that it matters, like.

Like the new tracks i heard.

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Like the new tracks i heard. Katatonia are an album band I think.
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That cover is pretty cool.

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That cover is pretty cool.

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Xes Haereticum wrote:
UncleErnie wrote:
Perhaps the most boring live band ive ever seen. So im not going to be buying their albums. The missus likes them but she has zero musical taste.
I'd seen them a couple of times before I saw them at BOA, and they were surprisingly really good on that day. Yeah sure, Jonas Renkse doesn't really do a lot on stage, but he's a very good vocalist, that's for sure. Are there any tracks available to listen to for this yet?
Could of been an off day i guess, it does happen. The vocalist was the spit of Vic Reeves! Which was the most entertaining thing about him.

UncleErnie wrote:Perhaps the

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UncleErnie wrote:
Perhaps the most boring live band ive ever seen. So im not going to be buying their albums. The missus likes them but she has zero musical taste.
I'd seen them a couple of times before I saw them at BOA, and they were surprisingly really good on that day. Yeah sure, Jonas Renkse doesn't really do a lot on stage, but he's a very good vocalist, that's for sure. Are there any tracks available to listen to for this yet?
Within the storms of thy burning hate, Lies the destiny of the false, My scorn of the whitest lie, Seals my fate among the rotting. My scorn of the whitest lie, Burns like a calling blaze.

Perhaps the most boring live

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Perhaps the most boring live band ive ever seen. So im not going to be buying their albums. The missus likes them but she has zero musical taste.

Like the art, have to take

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Like the art, have to take the 'review' with a pinch of salt, though.
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Quote:Guitarist/vocalist

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Guitarist/vocalist Mikael Åkerfeldt of Swedish progressive metallers OPETH has issued the following update: "KATATONIA's [forthcoming album] 'Night Is The New Day' is possibly the greatest 'heavy' record I've heard in the last 10 years." ""Well, two days after the new KATATONIA album is mastered, here we are, holed up in a friend's apartment ready to go through the new masterpiece by KATATONIA. And it truly is a masterpiece! I have not been this taken back by an album for a long time. I almost had tears in my eyes. It's an absolutely stunning piece of music! Easily their most progressive and emotional record, as far as I'm concerned"

These Katatonia chats that

These Katatonia chats that crop up every now and then are always interesting as 'Tonight's Decision' generally gets referred to as the best release from the post-BMD period yet I've never liked it - I snapped it up when it came out and couldn't stand it. 10 years on, I still feel it is far and away the weakest record they have done. With the exception of the first two tracks (which are admittedly excellent), it seems to descend into a quagmire of meandering, hook-free dirge-like stodge. Really don't like it at all. 'Discouraged Ones' is by comparison utterly haunting yet strangely compelling, 'LFDGD' has a plethora of belting tunes on it and 'Viva Emptiness' - despite the bizarre industrialized production - is great. Oh well, one man's meat and all that.

Last Fair Deal Gone Down is

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Last Fair Deal Gone Down is my favourite album by Katatonia - and that's saying something, considering they're my second favourite band. I agree that LFDGD was a transitional album - I just wish it wasn't, because to me, that album was the perfect confluence of all of their musical ideas. Nothing they've done since has gripped me the way tracks like Sweet Nurse and Teargas did. BTW - this is shameless self-promotion, I know, but if you click the MySpace link in my sig, you can hear an instrumental track that I wrote for my college course - the assignment was to do a presentation on the band of my choice, to record or perform a cover of one of that band's songs, and to record or perform a song written in the style of that band. Well, 'The Long Walk' on my MySpace profile is my attempt at a Katatonia-esque track.

Satellite_Radio wrote: All i

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Satellite_Radio wrote:
All i know is that in circles i've been around, indie kids complain about the 'metal guitars'.
Fuckin pussies.
"Under the water there are traps. Old cars, bedsteads, weeds, hidden depths. It's the perfect place for an accident."

True enough Avi, but at least

True enough Avi, but at least there were trace elements of that style featured throughout the album. e.g 'Right Into The Bliss'. Can't say the same for LFDGD, which is why it took me a while to relate to it. I didn't like LFDGD at all at first, with the exception of 3-4 songs. It sounded bland to me. Took about a year to fully appreciate it. CHRIS: I agree that 'chilled out' is a stupid way to describe Katatonia's music and no attentive listener would EVER side with it. As for the non-metalhead opinion of Katatonia, i'm not sure. All i know is that in circles i've been around, indie kids complain about the 'metal guitars'.

Tonight's Decision features

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Tonight's Decision features the last display of aforementioned entangling riff-tides, on opener 'For My Demons'.

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Xes Haereticum wrote:To

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Xes Haereticum wrote:
To completely turn this thread on it's head, my favourite Katatonia album is Tonight's Decision. Bought it on a whim when it was on sale in HMV in around 1999 for a fiver, and it became my favourite album for quite some time.
This is the truth

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Quite so, dunno what went

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Quite so, dunno what went wrong there, except maybe that they were over-simplifying their aesthetic (and sound and style) for mass acceptance. Which they've deserved for years, but oughtn't have compromised for. What's the non-metalhead opinion on Katatonia these days? Is there one? When I worked at HMV I surprised a number of indie chums with 'Tonight's Decision' and 'A Fine Day To Exit'. I remember around that time the compilation charts were full of fatuous 'chill-out' albums (several people a day came and asked "where's the chill-out albums to, mush?") and in either Kerrang or Metal Hammer I remember a one-page Katatonia feature which repeatedly branded them 'chill-out metal', which was just excruciating.
"Under the water there are traps. Old cars, bedsteads, weeds, hidden depths. It's the perfect place for an accident."

Chris Chantler wrote:Yes same

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Yes same here. I listened to it constantly for ages. Well, as much as I did 'Discouraged Ones'. I liked the way the colours of the covers were reflected in the sounds; 'DO' was warm, fuzzy and burnished, 'TD' was cool, crisp and nocturnal. Unless that's just the mind playing tricks?
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Oof, just noticed my 'covers suit the music' observation was said by SatRad days ago. So I should say, yes, I agree with SatRad.
hahaha, well you did explain yourself, which is something i neglected to do. I agree with your assessment of both D.O and T.D. That 'warm, fuzzy' feeling you describe to me is almost like a flickering of flame that kind of 'surrounds' the tunes. It's calming, as well as unnerving. T.D is more 'cold', detached, like you said, and it sends chills up your spine. LFDGD has a bleak, hopeless, 'greenish' kind of sound to it, while V.E just has that oppressive, ultra cloudy day/hangover(non-alcholic) vibe going on - the calm before the storm. it's their most disquieting release in a number of ways, because the dread/anxiety is forever looming, and the cavalcade of distortion almost serves as temporary relief. I might just be talking shit, but that's what i feel AND see whenever i listen to those albums. TGCD, on the other hand, doesn't make me see red, and maybe it's because it isn't an evocative shade of red. And it's not at all assisted by that cliched depiction of a grieving man. Surely veteran gloom merchants like Katatonia are capable of more imaginative artwork than a man slapping his dome?

Right into the Bliss is a

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Right into the Bliss is a great song.
Within the storms of thy burning hate, Lies the destiny of the false, My scorn of the whitest lie, Seals my fate among the rotting. My scorn of the whitest lie, Burns like a calling blaze.

Oof, just noticed my 'covers

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Oof, just noticed my 'covers suit the music' observation was said by SatRad days ago. So I should say, yes, I agree with SatRad.
"Under the water there are traps. Old cars, bedsteads, weeds, hidden depths. It's the perfect place for an accident."

I'm actually going to go and

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I'm actually going to go and listen to some of their stuff again now, may as well reacquiant before BOA.
Within the storms of thy burning hate, Lies the destiny of the false, My scorn of the whitest lie, Seals my fate among the rotting. My scorn of the whitest lie, Burns like a calling blaze.

Discouraged ones always makes

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Discouraged ones always makes me laugh. its so whiney and depressing, Theres more misery in that album than pretty much anything out there.
Mrs Doyle: What would you say to a cup father? [offers him a cup of tea] Father Jack Hackett: FECK OFF, CUP!

Criminals is easily my

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Criminals is easily my favourite Katatonia song, followed by Evidence. Viva Emptiness is just a fantastic album.

Yes same here. I listened to

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Yes same here. I listened to it constantly for ages. Well, as much as I did 'Discouraged Ones'. I liked the way the colours of the covers were reflected in the sounds; 'DO' was warm, fuzzy and burnished, 'TD' was cool, crisp and nocturnal. Unless that's just the mind playing tricks?
"Under the water there are traps. Old cars, bedsteads, weeds, hidden depths. It's the perfect place for an accident."

To completely turn this

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To completely turn this thread on it's head, my favourite Katatonia album is Tonight's Decision. Bought it on a whim when it was on sale in HMV in around 1999 for a fiver, and it became my favourite album for quite some time.
Within the storms of thy burning hate, Lies the destiny of the false, My scorn of the whitest lie, Seals my fate among the rotting. My scorn of the whitest lie, Burns like a calling blaze.

Oh, I forgot to mention that

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Oh, I forgot to mention that a model for the integrated Katatonia sound I'm after sort of exists. Check The Wedding Present's 'Interstate 5' off their 2005 album Take Fountain. I'm serious.

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Yes, those repetitive,

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Yes, those repetitive, minimalist, trance-inducing riffs with that entangling, morosely harmonic dual guitar work is exactly what made BMD unique and what is only hinted at or replicated sporadically on latter albums (latest example, I'd say, is the opening and chorus riff on 'For My Demons' off 'Tonight's Decision'). An equally glorious variation of this riff-motif was a dominant element of 'Discouraged Ones'. So, yeah, I'd like to hear it integrated into their current sound, makes total sense to me. This is the only route to another Katatonia masterpiece. They should be forced by legislation to do it, basically.
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Richie H-R wrote:I liked that

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Richie H-R wrote:
I liked that Mulder and Scully song they did.
I prefer

I liked that Mulder and

I liked that Mulder and Scully song they did.

Some Katatonia I've heard, I

Some Katatonia I've heard, I really enjoyed. Their early stuff, think the album had a yellowy, orange cover. I quite liked My Twin too. That's about it, though.

I see red when listening to

I see red when listening to TGCD.. A cold tone of red, that is.

Avi wrote:My fantasy is that

Avi wrote:
My fantasy is that they will find a way to revisit the riff work characterising Brave Murfer Day and Discouraged Ones and combine it with the melodic stuff. One can only dream...
You mentioned this in your Terrorizer review of their last album i believe, but i'm unsure exactly what you mean, as 'Discouraged Ones' was the start of the 'melodic stuff'. Do you mean those melodies with bigger choruses, and a greater emphasis on melodic vocal structure in the verses? anyway, as far as my own opinion is concerned, their only great abum this decade is 'Viva Emptiness', because it's the most varied in terms of texture and structure. It's also their heaviest. 'Last Fair Deal Gone Down' is good too--hated it at first though, just couldn't accept the change--but it's essentially a transitional point IMO. Not to reduce it to that necessarily, but it certainly occupies that place within their discography. In your review of 'The Great Cold Distance' you also referred to 'Brave Murder Day' as a 'singular achievement', or something along those lines, and i must agree. Nobody has produced anything like it since, not even Katatonia. I rarely listen to it anymore, but artistically speaking, it's definitely in a league of its own. That steely/brittle guitar sound against those measured, but stately, tempos, and those repetitive, minimalist, trance inducing riffs and melodies. It floored me at the time. Oh and that cover art too, perfectly reflects the music. TGCD is the only Katatonia album since BMD where the cover art is not reflected in the music itself. When i listen to TGCD, i do not see red. The lesson here folks is that in Katatonia's case, it's entirely appropriate to judge a book by its cover.

I like The Great Cold

I like The Great Cold Distance. Good stuff.

I play BMD fairly frequently.

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I play BMD fairly frequently. The title tracks are all good, as are "12" and "Rain".
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Katatonia are a band i just

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Katatonia are a band i just don't listen to anymore. Their last album was massively boring and directionless to my ears and it's been filed away never to be played again but i've felt distant from their last few efforts to be fair. 'Last Fair Deal ...' was probably the last album i could honestly say interested me. 'Viva Emptiness' had it's moments but ultimately i grew tired of it. Liked 'Brave Murder Day' a lot back in the day but i haven't played it in ages. I did like the 'Black Sessions' box set thingy they issued a few years back, that was alright.
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Myrddyn wrote:Nice

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Myrddyn wrote:
Nice typo.
Sorry, should have been Brave Smurf Day.
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Never heard them. Any good?

Never heard them. Any good?

Nice typo.

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Nice typo.

My fantasy is that they will

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My fantasy is that they will find a way to revisit the riff work characterising Brave Murfer Day and Discouraged Ones and combine it with the melodic stuff. One can only dream...
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Last Fair Deal is my

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Last Fair Deal is my favourite, was really disappointed with the last two.

Never been a fan.

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Never been a fan.

i quite enjoyed the last

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i quite enjoyed the last album. had some brilliant moments.
Mrs Doyle: What would you say to a cup father? [offers him a cup of tea] Father Jack Hackett: FECK OFF, CUP!

They need to go back to

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They need to go back to writing popish songs a la Last Fair Deal... and Viva Emptiness. No point trying to be heavy if it's a bit gash, lads.
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